EShomabesh - Mutual Admiration Society: Killing two "Jay Birds" with one stone!

Dear Readers,

Please forgive my imprudence in having to drag something that has transpired in another e-forum, but the "Jay Birds" duo of notoriety and their ways about the Net being known to all of you - I thought I might as well share this post to eshomabesh with all of you.

This is in response to Some thoughts on a smooth sailor of reactionary forces!
Re-discovery of a cyber chameleon by the name MAC

It makes for a wonderful day for me when I wake up to realize that there is yet another barb aimed at me from two obsolete non-entities on the Net such as some Dr.Jay Ullah or one Jay Hassan who as far as I am concerned have nothing better to do then indulge in aimless Net 'jay-walking' when everybody has lost their interest in anything the two write meaning reduced to non-entities (read jerks!).

The classic example of these very uninteresting 'old lads' is they maintain a 'mutual admiration society' as ironically there are hardly anyone to admire them, and I would not repeat the too many times I have caught them 'apparels down' despite all their tall talks about fighting 'fundamentalism' or the more choosy theme in 'fighting for the Spirit of Ekattur'

Their deceits and lies are legendary.

Whenever challenged, as I have done on many occasions - they make a convenient disappearing act only to resurface with vengeance in some other forum - some more BARB's ensues, and may I reassure readers they will again go into hibernation once this post is released.

For this lot of jokers their 'defeated silence' means a patronizing 'patta dilaam na' in other words didn't give him any importance while they fail to realize that as things stand today they have been reduced to nondescript redundancy.

Let's start from this point:

Dr.Jay says

I just got this short write-up from Jamal Hasan, which he circulated amongst his friends. I asked his permission to post it in Nirvana. After some hesitancy, Jamal acquiesced in. This MAC character is a class by him. He calls himself a 'Jazz-fusion man' a three-decade old term. The world of Jazz has progressed in the last three-decades. Even John McLaughlin, the British musician who was in the forefront of Fusion Jazz, is no longer playing in that style. However, MAC lives in his own world the world of mid-1970s

Notice the hesitance in Jay Hassan, anybody reading the above will only surmise that what they talked about is how best to get back at me. They have to do it 'together' as they do not have the courage for a face to face, one on one encounter - nor anybody else to support them.

Yes I call myself a jazz-rock-fusion musician which I am aware is a 'three decade old term' but what about Rock musician or Tagore musicians how old are they and what is the millennium substitution for those terms Dr.Jay?

Also isn't it incredible to see how he has this uncanny ability to get inside my MIND and probe, explore and confirm that I live in the 'world of mid-1970s' ( I thought he was only a swine scientist - now it seems he is a mind scientist as well)isn't he only talking about himself and his friend the other Jay Hassan who have not stepped out a day beyond the 1970's?

Dr.Jay says;

Lately, MAC is playing a very dangerous game in many e-forums. Our gullible e-forum editors have the slightest of idea what game MAC is playing. Jamal Hasan is on the right track deciphering Mac’s evil design. I personally think that ‘Bangladeser Dak’ is a e-group with nothing but evil intent.

Readers note his malicious twist to the word Bangladesh – which clearly shows his love for the Kolkata duhduhs as they would exactly pronounce it the way he has typed it in!

However as far as BangladesherDak is concerned he has not been able to show one instance of our 'evil intent'and in reality what he and his friend Jay Hassan are afraid about is the content of news and the speed in which we deliver these to our readers - irrespective of whatever forum they belong.

Dr.Jay says:

They are out there to sow the seeds of anti-1971 spirit even though outwardly they may say that they hate the Pakistani army general. I would hope that the moderator of Mukto-Mona would read Jamal revealing piece with a magnifying glass. As long as the Mukto-Mona forum is promoting Bangladeser Dak, I would stay away from that forum. We should know who are our friends and foes.

Again no indication or ONE reference to our attempt to 'sow the seed of anti-1971 spirit' there must be a few thousand URLs on the Net from BangladesherDak or Dak Bangla and I challenge them to come up with one that stands behind their insipid hatred of accusations.

Readers do note the spelling of Bangladeshagain it simply cannot be a typographical error twice too many coincidences!

As far as the forum Mukto-Mona is concerned it seem a trifle odd that Dr.Jay should be spilling his bile about this on e-shomabesh? Goes only to show how too many disgusting personal slanders have a propensity to hit back at the oneself, and an indicator as to how unpopular he has become.

Note also his very clear delineation as to 'friends and foes' i.e.if you are not with me you are with the terrorist Bushonian mindset? Coming from an ex-Islami Chattra Sangha activist in his student hey-days the genes of fundamentalism will take a long time to disappear.

Now on to Jay Hassan and he has this to say:

My encounter with MAC occurred might be four years ago. I heard his name from one of my cyber activist friend Naeem Mohaiemen. Naeem let me know MAC was his bosom buddy. One time I even fell in the trap of MACs agenda. That was the time when he deliberately distorted a few Tagore songs and got the wrath of Rabindra lovers in Bangladesh. Naeems SHOBAK website still carries the names of the signatories who supported MACs stand on experimenting with Tagore songs.I recall MACs public posture was to 'popularize' Tagore songs by blending with Jazz and western tune.

First two deliberate misinterpretations (lies) here.

I do not think Naeem would ever be so stupid to tell Jay Hassan that we are 'bosom buddy's because in my 6 years of knowing Naeem I met him only once and that too for ten minutes in 1997?

We became e-friends and by that we were never a 'mutual admiration society' so to speak! We had differences and too many hot emails between us but that has not stopped ME from being his friend.

About Tagore music I sure stand behind my assertions of 1999 that I experimented to popularize Tagore and I shall continue to do it till the last breath has left my body and regardless of what 'Tagore fundamentalist'like the Jay mutual admirers society think or NOT.

Jay Hassan says:

Regarding Tagore songs, MACs nefarious design was exposed in no time. After the mockery of 'popularizing Tagore songs' he wrote a number of essays where he expressed his greatest faith in Islamic identity. The sum total of his articles indicated that Tagore belongs to an alien Hindu culture professed by high nose West Bengali Dadas that has nothing to offer to Bangladeshi Muslims. MAC never liked Tagore and his 'jazzification of Tagore songs' is nothing but a MACstyle ploy.

This exposes the true intent of the Jaybird duo!

In other words in order to popularize Tagore you` have to

a) Give up your Islamic faith and identity and convert to Hinduism if possible to show your 'iman' in Tagore

b) And yes, the second part where he 'sum totals up' is exactly the attitude I want to fight and will fight.

Tagore is not the property of Hindus of Kolkata alone but of all humanity, caste, creed and importantly RELIGION. There have been more contributions to Tagore and his work in Bangladesh than those in Kolkata.

Jay Hassan says:

Therefore, naïve I was about this dubious character’s ulterior motive! As days went by, MAC had gradually unmasked to me totally. He is none other than a bigoted and staunchly anti-Hindu, anti-West Bengal, anti-India type individual.

Anti-India, anti-West-Bengal – I admit to wholeheartedly but 'anti-Hindu' you might as well make this point clear with VERY specific examples.

Jays Hassans very weak example:

He is so much blinded by his anti-Hinduism that onetime in his rebuttal to one of my essays, he had the audacity to name a prominent cultural figure of Bangladesh as 'Ramendu HINDU Majumdar'. His extreme hatred to anything Indian or West Bengali pushed him into the camps of dark forces of Pakistani ISI/Jamaati Islami/BNP axis

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I wonder what the hell is SO wrong in calling a Hindu a Hindu? I would have no problems if anybody called me Maqsood Muslim Haque!!

I also wonder where I went wrong in calling somebody who quickly converted to Islam to marry a Muslim damsel, changed his name to Nurul Islam to make the wedding legally binding and then goes about calling himself Ramendu Mazumdar and does his Shonatoni rituals shamelessly!

Calling him a Hindu is just reminding him that legally he is a Muslim and thats about it Jay! If this does not make him (Ram Hindu Mazumndar) unhappy; I wonder why it bothers you so much.

About my links to the Pakistani/ISI/Jamaati Islamii and the BNP axis, till such time you cannot come up with credible proof - I am afraid you will have nothing more than your own shadow to box with.

Jay Hassan writes:

He is no fool. His most essays would definitely critique the Pakistanis; their atrocity in 1971s Bangladesh, also his soft rebuke of BNP can be hardly ignored. But the final message is clear and that is his ultimate nemeses are Awami League, a group of well-known secular figures of Bangladesh like Syed Hasan Imam, Sanjida Khatun, Ramendu Majumdar, Aly Zaker – whom he calls Culture Vultures and last but not the least the expatriate secular writers who mostly write on the web.

Thanks for his great compliment in thinking I am 'no fool' and yes the rest of the things he says about the so-called secular figures are TRUE: I reiterate that they are CULTURE VULTURES and that is not something I say any more - but all of Bangladesh does. I may be credited for coining the term FIRST thats it.

A 100 marks for Jay Hassan for speaking the truth in an otherwise hate and lie filled posting - congratulations!

Jay Hassan writes:

MAC wrote quite a few lengthy essays in NFB, which is edited by his young days’ pal Tanvir Chowdhury. Due to MACs insistence, Tanvir stopped publishing secular writers Mijanur Rahman Milon and Sirajuddin Shopons essays in NFB. MAC once wrote a lengthy article on Bangladesh language movement. In conclusion, he taunted the UNESCOs selection of 21st February as International Language Day When I first read the article, I could not believe a Cannabis loving freewheeling Bangladeshi man would have such hatred to anything Bangla and Bengali. Now I understand he is nobody other than an operative of global Islamists’ Trojan Horse Brigade.

I am copying this email to Tanvir Chowdhury to find out if ever I have interfered with NFB and whether on my insistence he has stopped anybody from writing in NFB. This is typically 1970's mentality!!

Yes Tanvir and self are childhood friends but let us be clear on one count – we are not as intellectually degenerative as you and the other Jay bird.

What does the UNESCO declaration making Bangla and International language signify when the test of the world does not even have a clue as to what the hell it is? That was the only question I asked nothing more nothing less. If that makes me an Islamist Trojan Horse Brigade (whatever that means) suit yourself.

Jay Hassans flip side propaganda for Jammat I Islaam amd Golam Azam:

Regarding MAC my final analogy is like this. Let us suppose, Jamat leader Prof. Golam Azam is a good reporter and his egroup gives very interesting news. So, for the sake of enrichment some egroups may love to have Prof. Azams postings. My point is clear and unambiguous. I will never give the killer Azam an extra ounce of oxygen by strengthening his fronts. My final conclusion.

Why do you have to write so much about Gholam Azam when at the end of the day all you are doing is giving him far too much importance than he deserves?

Because the Jamaat is funded by Jews it becomes imperative for Jew lovers such as your good self Mr. Jay to keep them in the public limelight. You are giving him quintals of oxygen to survive.

I think it is time that you also noted very carefully that there has been only ONE man, in the total population of 120 million Bangladesh citizens to publicly call Gholam Azam a KAFIR and record it for posterity.

It is contained in an album called 'Nishiddho' and that album has by now reached 10 million people in Bangladesh and all across the world - and that ONE man is no one else but yours infinitely hated and loathed.